World Overview � Where’s the UN now?!

And more to the point, what is the ONLY country that has offered us any aid for relief of the damage done to one of our principal ports?

Anyone?

Beuller? Beuller?

Israel.

This morning I posted a response to Eva Ellsworth’s comments, and in it I referred to an article in this morning’s paper, in the “Annie’s Mailbox” Advice column. Over the day I was thinking that I would post this for discussion in a few forums. So, come lunch, I cut and pasted and modified it, posting first at the Stand Your Ground forum. This included the line:

And I will note that not only is she not refuted, but not rebuked. How much you want to bet that if a man said this, words like “Kidnapping” and “Abuse” would be thrown around?

So I check a couple other things, get ready to go to the Colosseum to post it, check this list to see if I have missed anything, and lo and behold, in reference to the other line, Hachu/Maatkare (Posts under one name, refers to herself in the third person by the second) has posted this:

well its seems they made the obvious point that she will be harming her child rather than her intended target. Maybe ask Ann isn’t a platform to get into debates regarding the obnosiouxness of the court system or bring hell and highwater to “In Dispair”

Man, females are damned if we do and damned if we don’t do it how men want us to.

Lord, Give me STRENGTH.

So, I reply (And I repeat it solely because I think it’s funny and clever):

Ya know, Matakare, I have to give you an “A+” for taking a specific criticism directed at two specific women who in the past have demonstrated (Read their archives) a distinct pro-female over male bias, twisting it into and inferring a slam on “All women” and putting yourself under the umbrella of victimhood.

Edit: Never mind. There is. Five minutes. Kind of takes your breath away, doesn’t it, guys?

This is kind of what I deal with. I can’t even criticise TWO SPECIFIC WOMEN, let alone merely a subgroup of “feminists,” without hypersensitive women deciding that I am targeting “ALL WOMEN” and them in particular. And people wonder why I just tune out the complaints about it.

I swear to Christ, some days it just doesn’t pay to chew through the restraining straps.

FOXNews.com - Views - ifeminists - Gender Bias in Domestic Violence Treatment

One of Wendy Mac’s better columns. And sounds a lot like the old Wendy Mac.

Yeah, the hypocrisy of feminists is appalling, but unsuprising.

And interesting and timely point from her article:

Some female domestic violence victims have been so brutalized by the men in their lives that a mere male presence may well terrify them. For that category of domestic violence victim, a women-only shelter may be the most compassionate and effective option.

(Men-only shelters for similarly devastated male victims would be equally valid.)

Hmm. I wonder if that would apply to men who have been legally brutalized at the hands of women, such as we see a lot of in the Men’s movement, and who have no shelter, support, programs, or counselling and must work things out on their own as best they can? One would hope so.

Or this:

I’m the sort of domestic violence victim who needed exposure to non-abusive men, not isolation from all male presence, in order to heal. I needed to realize that decent caring men still existed and that I could interact with them in a positive way. In other words, a specific man was my problem; men as a whole were part of the solution.

Except that many men who have beenground up and spit out by the inarguably biased and hostile Family Court system usually wind up isolated and treated as pariahs, as their friend’s wives tend to take “her” side.

And one might also hope that several other women writers who complain how angry and bitter the men in the Men’s Movement are might reflect on it, as well, that we have all manner of support for women, but none of the former and precious little of the latter for men.

Gee. Wonder how we wind up with all these angry and resentful men who would sooner convert to homosexual necrophelia that get involved in a relationship again?

And it’s civil. Fair enough

Yes, I am bitter. I have a feminist mother and was brainwashed by feminist ideas from childhood. I never dared admit to anyone that I really wanted to be like June Cleaver: I was taught it was bad to want a family. When I had early menopause at age 27, I realized that, by pursuing a career, I gave up some possibilities in life that I’d never have again. I admit I made a bad choice under the influence of feminism. I’d like to stop feminism from pushing other women to abandon the things they want in life.

Okay. Now, simple yes or no question: Did Men - or the Men’s Movement - do this?

Feminist mother - feminist ideas. Maybe not all women do this - but the vast and overwhelming majority of that demographic is women. Hold that thought. It’s not a conclusion, but a premise. Read on.

I am a “Janie come lately” because I had not heard of the men’s movement until a year or so ago. Some outreach would help your cause. A “women are bad” message may be satisfying, but is it effective? Try to recognize that all women have NOT comitted paternity fraud, screwed a man in a divorce, made false accusations, etc. Such cases aren’t publicized by the mainstream media, so an effort to reach a wider audience would help. most women have no idea that these things are happening.

There’s the problem Eva - for example, not all women commit paterity fraud. True. But ONLY women can commit paternity fraud. And there is a significant difference.

Our chivalrous society is set up in a way that attacking a woman - even those who deserve it - becomes “Attacking All Women.” From the premise above where I asked the thought be held, when I start lobbing my little love notes to feminists, the bulk of people who are going to get caught in the blast radius are women. And being feminists, they deserve it.

Break this down further - follow this, and let me know if I misstate.

1) You were brought up under feminism.
2) You were taught feminist ideals, and you’ve stated they were anti-family (”I was taught it was bad to want a family.”) - that usually goes with outspoken brands of feminism.
3) You were taught that those feminist tenets were right, fair, and desirable - or IOW, moral and ethical.
4) You had a “Come to Jesus” moment where you realized what you had been taught was a crock of shit.
5) You had the courage (unlike most of the human race) to reject those things you were taught at a young age.

Now - how many girls and women over the past three or four generations have been taught things like that? And I am not talking just the extreme feminists, but the cultural message that males and females are fungible, men are dolts, that boys are stupid, throw rocks at them? Or more to the point, that marriages are disposable, and many things can be justified in the name of “the good of a child” or in keeping custody of children? Have been taught that many legal entitlements are their birthright?

For an off the cuff example of this type of thinking, I will refer you to this very morning’s edition of “Annie’s Mailbox” which is the successor column to the late Ann Landers. First letter is from a woman who signs her letter “In Despair,” who writes that she has found her husband cheating on her. Towards the bottom of the letter, she says:

“Now I feel like getting a divorce and making sure he never sees our daughter again.”

And in the response, the ladies who write the column say:

“whatever the outcome, please do not punish your daughter by removing her father from her life.”

One might ask, “Gonz, what does this have to do with anything?” Well, I will tell you. They both acknowledge that “In Despair” does indeed have that power. Read again. Find the column in a paper. No “Well, that’s rare.” No “Well, that is a common myth…” She says “I can do that. It is done all the time.” How does she know that? Because she has seen it. Because she knows it is not uncommon, but par for the course if a woman decides to pursue it. And is it refuted? Is it refuted by the successors to Ann Landers, who have her staff, files, infrastructure, contacts of “Ann Landers Inc.,” who pretty much wrote the column in the declining years of Ann Landers’ life? No. It is asked “Please don’t do this, even though you can.”

And I will note that not only is she not refuted, but not rebuked, but that is another rant.

“In Despair” learned that she could do that. She learned somewhere that it is proper, and common to do that. Somewhere, her and her girlfriends had a titter over someone putting the screws to their ex, and was met with laughter, high fives, and “You go, girl! Get him! Make him pay!”

No, a properly formed conscience, in a person of integrity and ethics won’t feel this way.. Given the above example, of a casual nature, ask yourself how many consciences have been formed improperly? Have been taught that bad is good?

How many haven’t had - or haven’t recognized - their own “Come to Jesus” moment?

And how many rejected it anyway, having been taught that they are victims, no matter what, even if their problems are their fault?

Be introspective, Eva - are you really the norm in that respect?

Feminism, Eva, has not just ruined isolated lives. The damage it has wrought is wide and incalculable. And while I have sympathy for the women who would probably have been fine people had they been brought up properly and not poisoned by feminism, at the end of the day, I still would sooner play a game of pool with my buddies than marry, or even date, one of them. I’m just not qualified to give that kind of therapy.

Maybe it’s “Not their fault” they were brought up that way. Okay. I’ll grant that. BUT - It isn’t my fault either. And it isn’t my job to take them to raise.

As for “entitlements,” I worked my a** off to do succeed at my job & never asked for or wanted entitlements. I’d prefer that they didn’t exist because I don’t like having my abilities discounted, (By the way, the last two hires at my company were male - if there were entitlements, wouldn’t they have made an effort to interview more women?).

Eva
Eva Ellsworth | 08.30.05 - 11:40 pm | #

Like I said, Eva - someone did. If not you, someone else. And it’s a shame that you get asked that legitimate question, but from someone who has asked it, how do I know? I walk into a company as a consultant, and I’m presented with an IT department. This company is inculated with political correctness, and affirmative action. I don’t know you from Adam - or if you will pardon the pun, I don’t know Eva from Eve.

I know there is no chance yon white guy over there got his position on a pass. Even odds or better he is competant. You will have to prove yourself all over. Thanks to entitlements. Thanks to feminism.

This is my money, my contract, my livlihood. I can’t risk the food on my table for some abstract idea of “I should give the benefit of the doubt.” One bad performance can ruin my reputation in the business community. I’m going to play the better odds for my project liason. I don’t have the time to observe and see you are really competent.

See, I’ve sat in on hiring committees. I’ve been there when it has been said, “Oh, for Christ’s sake, just hire the next two black guys who walk in that aren’t gangsters. Even better if they are black lesbians. We have to submit the bid in two weeks and we need our numbers right.”

I didn’t create this culture. I, and the MRM is AGAINST this. But it is still the way it is.

One small piece of illogic, though - just because they didn’t HIRE women doesn’y mean they didn’t INTERVIEW women.

Jennifer Morse, in her article, “Is there a right to have a baby?”observes “I think this is a mistake, because the state is supporting women in making a plan to deprive their children of any relationship with their biological father.”

Hmmmmmmm. Ain’t it da troot?

Now, correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me to be one of the great Divorce and Child Support Industry talking points is that a child has a right to his or her mother and father, and one parent or the other cannot waive support and parenting from that parent on the child’s behalf. Is that about it? Have I misstated? No? Okay then…

(Yeah, I know that only the “support” portion of this disingenuous tripe is actually enforced, because cash flow is what these hypocritical rat bastards are really interested in, and not the actual welfare of the child, but bear with me.)

If we stay logically consistant here, isn’t it then unethical at least for a doctor to perform such a procedure, and opening himself up to suits from the children later? And isn’t this dyke, again, if we maintain logical consistancy, violating that child’s legal rights?

I’m sure there is a left wing, feminist, nutcase rationalization for this somewhere. I’d be interested in hearing it. I could use a good chuckle this morning.

Is there a right to have a baby?

Since I’ve been singled out by Eva Ellesworth in her recent column, I hope nobody minds if I respond.

Yes, Eva, I am a loudmouth, Bomb-tossing radical advocate for change. And mainly because acting nice didn’t work. Since I turned into a loud and obnoxious man, and threw a few choice profanities in to get attention, it has come along nicely.

Your personal mileage may vary. Once upon a time I played nice. And I wasn’t listened to. To be honest, I’ve tried just about everything peaceful to get my point across, and becoming a noisy asshole is the last resort, but by gum, people are starting to hear at long last. And it’s a good thing, too. I was almost thinking that peaceful reform was a lost cause. And you know what they say about what happens when a society makes peaceful reform impossible, eh?

Eva, one thing I was taught a long time ago was the notion that “Any apology that has the word `but’ in it is NOT an apology.” I have found that such a philosophy carries over into other things as well. And when we in the Men’s Movement begin to complain about the raw deals we receive – I will spare the litany – what we hear so often is “Yeah, but, not all women…” and “Yeah, but, not my (insert personal anecdote)…”

But. Well, any agreement with a “but” in it isn’t an agreement, Eva. It leaves us with one conclusion to draw.

You’re not listening. You’re too busy excusing yourself personally, and to many of us it really doesn’t seem like you want to pitch in and help, you just want some sort of absolution.

Over and over we hear women complain that they never benefited from this, that they personally earned their job, or diploma, or whatever. Okay. Fine. Bravo. Problem is, Eva, that when you have 10 jobs open, and four are “reserved” for women (All in the name of Holy Diversity, dontcha know) SOMEONE in there is getting their job – scholarship – what have you – on a pass.

Are you really going to tell me that every woman who gets their goodie on a quota – and quota is what it is; when you have to resort to a quota to defend yourself from ruinous lawsuits, it’s a quota – gets it because she deserves it? That no man is ever knocked out of the running for something he earns and deserves because of these quotas? Are you really going to sit there and argue that point of view.

Maybe not you. Maybe indeed you’re the fifth woman who earned and deserves that cookie. What about the other four? Did all four deserve it? Did a man place higher than one of them? Two? Three? All four? How many men are empty handed because they got passed over due to institutionalized, legal, sexism? Ironically enough, all in the name of fighting sexism. Ain’t that a hoot?

Is it okay? Is one okay? Let us say that only one man comes up short because he failed the genitals test. Is that okay? “No, of course not!” responds anyone with a modicum of ethics – but we’re still sternly told not to talk about it.

Now here’s the kicker – which one of you – because I can’t tell on sight, there is no bar code, no flashing beanie that says “I benefited from Legal Sexism!” to tell – which one of you is the one who didn’t deserve their position? Which one of you got to hit from the red tees? I am sure it is aggravating to be tarred with that brush, but that’s the nature of that particular beast, and, I gotta say, it isn’t us Men’s Rights folks what set up that system of entitlements – but I guess we take the heat for it. And we really aren’t calling for quotas of our own – just a dismantling of undeserved entitlements. Trust me, Eva. The vast and overwhelming majority of us enjoy fair competition as opposed to a stacked deck, or the “Jokers wild for me but not for thee!” system now. Now asking for quotas, for “blue tees” - that would be real, re-treaded feminism.

Or is it our job to suck it up, take one for the team, and “Shhh! Shhh!” about that elephant in the room?

You know, Eva, Feminism has been running rampant for – oh – moving into decade number six now. I’m talking the really hard core feminism, too, not your granny’s “I want to vote and drive” feminism that conceivably could have really been about true equality under the law. Depending on how you count it, we’re working on the third, maybe even the fourth generation of women who have grown up under that.

This is three or four generations who have grown up being taught that it is okay for girls to hit boys, and expect not to be hit back, that they are entitled to equality of result as opposed to opportunity, thet “Grrlz Rule and Boyz Drool!” That they are entitled to lie, and cheat, and steal, and do as they please in respect to their “rights” to be a mother (or not) – and men be damned.

Care to take a guess at how many of these girls and women are perfect monsters? And even more so, I bet you don’t have a thing to do with them, or their cliques – so they are invisible to you, Eva. And you can do that. You won’t be thought of as a misogynist or accused of sexual harassment for shunning them, or accused of discrimination for firing them or not hiring them in the first place.

And even when you do interact with them, you’re not “The Enemy.” You aren’t scrutinized as a potential molester for reading your book in the park. Take your kid to the doctor for stitches, and you aren’t going to be looked at like you may have done it yourself, or asked to leave the room so they can interrogate your child. You are (queue sound of angels singing) “The Mother.” If the social workers come to your house because your busybody neighbor called them – so long as you aren’t a Christian or a Republican, God Forbid – they will more than likely be interested in keeping your family intact instead of trying to reunite them with (queue sound of angels singing) “Their Mother.” Assuming that Miz Nosy even calls them on you. After all, you’re a woman. Not one of those evil men who has no business around his own children.

Fifty plus years. Where were ya’ll back then? How come up until very recently – when the chickens have started flying back and roosting – the most scathing criticism of feminism from women has been, “I’m not a feminist, but…”

Um-hm. I’m not a feminist, but… I’ll be happy to graze at the buffet of entitlements. I’m not a feminist, but … I’ll cheerfully take custody of the kids, and the house, and the car when it’s handed to me because of my sex.

Of course, I would be remiss not to mention the Great, “You don’t speak for me, Betty Freidan” and “Gloria Steinem is not my Leader!” rallies of the sixties. Oh, yeah. They never happened. Well, How could we forget the “Real Equality for All in Family Court” and “Don’t Shaft My Son in My Name” organizations women started in the seventies. Ooops. Yeah. Um. They never formed either, did they? Anti-Paternity Fraud groups? No, none of them either. Hmm. The Protests against women who made false accusations? No, no – none of them either. Well, surely in the eighties we had petitions by women to their congressmen to not expand “Sexual Harassment” to include everything that merely displeased a woman.

Oh. Yeah. None of those, either. Except for Phyllis Schaefly, and a scant few followers, come to think of it, there sure as hell has been a lot of silent complicity in the excesses of feminism for a long, long time, now that you think of it – hasn’t there, Eva?

Of course while all this was happening, men were being ruined. Well, money can be re-earned. New Property can be bought, new businesses and careers built. How about families, Eva? Let’s talk about them.

Let’s talk about how men lost custody and access to their children, were hit with staggering child support assessments which required them to move far away, or take second jobs to meet (And for which they were further penalized). False accusations of sexual and physical abuse. Alienation, causing the flesh of their flesh to call another man – or series of men – daddy instead of them. Estrangements that continue to this day. Lost moments. Lost milestones. Birthdays and graduations denied because it wasn’t their turn to visit. Let’s just START there.

If you can turn back the clock and recapture those things gone forever, I’m all ears, along with a few million other men. I have got my second chance with everything else, personally speaking, but I’d sell my soul to get even a year or two of that time back, and consider it a fuckin’ bargain, Eva. Hell, Eva, I know men who would do it for even a day or two, with delivery to immediately follow.

Tell me, Eva, is it okay if we’re annoyed at that? Irritated? Mad? Angry? Maybe even enraged? Okay if we don’t believe in a system or institution that we were promised glorious things about, and which ripped out great chunks of our hearts and souls, leaving voids which can never, ever, be filled? Is that okay with you, Eva? Do we have your permission, here, to be just a tetch aggravated that this was done in the name of “Feminism?” Might we even dislike it a little bit, even for a few minutes in the morning before anyone else gets up?

Very big of you.

Maybe we might also be a little disgusted that so many women are “Janie Come Latelies” to the party, especially when they couldn’t be bothered years earlier out of simple fairness and justice and waited until – how did you put it? They realized that “Making divorce and custody settlements more equitable helps women who want families because punitive settlements discourage men from marrying and becoming fathers” and that “feminism has probably hurt women more than it helped them.” You’ll have to pardon me a bit here, Eva. See, where I sit, it sounds like there is a lot of women who supped at the table of feminism in years gone by, but now want to get out of paying the bill for it. It sounds like a lot of women didn’t believe the water was rising until it was sloshing on them – and of course, now we men, once again, are expected to “do something” and make it all better.

You can reference a lot of “Pro Male” women writers for that one Eva – preaching at us how it is high time men stood up for themselves. But, by golly, do it in a “nice” way, and don’t be mad about it, okay, boys?

Crusty elder that I am, I’m part of that first fruits, the first generation of men who grew up under the scourge of feminism, who are now past the age where custody, visitation, support and all that are anything but a moot point. Like I said, my chance is past, and gone. And I’m not real eager to ask to be dealt in again, nor are many of my peers. Nor are many of our sons. We’ve learned through the baptism of fire that we’re about two flights of stairs lower than whale shit when it comes to our rights as fathers, and we’ve also learned that pretty much nobody really gives a bag of sour owl shit about it, either. Far as most of your sisters are concerned, we’re a soulless life support system for a fleshy dildo and a wallet, and a potential sperm donor if they ever decide they want to “be fulfilled as mothers.” And thanks, but – we really have to turn down the part. The pay stinks – you don’t even get scale – and the retirement plan is lousy. Plus there are no residuals involved.

I have to say, I’d be a lot more impressed over all the high sounding talk about men taking responsibility if this hadn’t come after years of urging – by women – to suck things up, to be a man, to not “judge” women by their “pasts” and make generalizations – those very things which would be the things to make us avoid poisonous women. We say, “Avoid College girls, they are infected with Feminism” and we are afraid of women with brains. We say, “Avoid Career women, you’ll always be second place” and we are afraid of capable women. We say “Avoid divorced women, single mothers” and we are judgemental. We can’t tell our sons and brothers to avoid promiscuous women. God forbid we preach a gospel of “Don’t Cater to demands and whims” because we are then insensitive. “Stand up for yourself” makes us abusive. If we look for women who have trained themselves for marriage and motherhood we are regressive control freaks. And so on. And so forth.

And add into it the very unreasonableness of that request – I know of no woman who has ever told me “I am going to use you for whatever you are worth, suck you dry of money and emotions, sleep with your friends in retaliation for wrongs I feel you have committed, take your kids away from you, and harass you with lawyers for the next dozen years.” In fact, especially such people will say quite the opposite – so when we are skeptical about things, we’re hateful to all women. Because, you know, after all we can read minds, except that we are too lazy, and can magically tell that you are different if we put our minds to it. I, mean, when you say “I would never do that” and the lying skank says it, the difference is so obvious, and the fact that we are dragging our feet while your biological clock is ticking isn’t because we are trying to be sure, but because as every schoolgirl knows, we men are just immature commitmentphobes.

And despite the fact that you yourself admit that “men often get raw deals in divorce court and family courts” and “our court system has made it too easy for women to file false charges of paternity, rape, abuse and sexual harassment” and that “the media portrays men as dolts” and that feminists are “over-represented in the media and academia” and “feminism has probably hurt women more than it helped them” and “male hostility (has been) wrought by feminism” and that “feminism (has) made divorce so unfavorable to men” it’s our fault for being sick and tired of playing the damn game. The day of “Everything Being Made Right” is surely coming, isn’t it, Eva? I mean, while you women were talking (but not much else) about how things were terrible, you’ve been asking us for decades to chill out, bide our time, and one day it would all be evened out.

A more cynical man than me might think we men have had smoke blown up our asses for years by women wanting us to wait until they had theirs secured before we finally rose up and said, “Screw this bullshit…” and commenced to cracking skulls, whether literally or figuratively. Such a man might even regard the common sentiments of “Well, this is terrible, but we have to deal with this carefully, and it will take some more time while (Holy, holy, holy!) THE SYSTEM(tm) grinds away. Chill out, guys, bide your time and we’ll get it sorted out and all will come right in the end.” as a continuation of do-nothing empty words.

Reverse the genders, Eva. For a moment. Badda-bing, abracadabra, hocus pocus, and bam-a-lam-a-ding-dong; and suddenly you’re a woman who is subject to losing jobs and opportunity for legal set asides for men. When you divorce, you’ll probably lose any material goods you have accumulated, and will be relegated to “visitor” in your children’s lives – if Daddy lets you get that far. Men will be able to accuse you of vile and despicable crimes, and you’ll be regarded as guilty until proven innocent; that the man has lied about such things before will be considered immaterial, and even if you prove yourself innocent, you’ll lose your kids and be forever suspected of being really guilty. A few loud mouth men get all the air-play, repeating myths that anyone with a computer can show to be false, and everywhere you look, women are portrayed as bumbling and incompetent nincompoops. Man can get a secret restraining order against you, call you, and YOU will be thrown in jail for violating the restraining order. And even if the man who has just taken your house, car, bank account, and kids makes six figures, he can quit his job to stay home with the kids, and he won’t be regarded as shirking work. And your child support will increase. And if you take a second job because what you have left over won’t pay your bills, he can get a chunk of that too, and complain in court that you are a piss poor parent because you are always working, never have time for the kids, and he shouldn’t be expected to accommodate your weirdo hours for visitation – and the court will side with him, because he’s a man. And he can berate you, punch you, kick, scream, throw things, and refuse to let you be, and if you so much as raise your voice to him, you can go to jail.

Want to live in that world, Eva? I wonder how long you might take there before you decided that men were more trouble than they were worth. And all this time many men will sit there and sanctimoniously claim, “Well, I’m not a masculist, but” and do sod all to help you for years on end beside give you platitudes, and tell you to keep a stiff upper lip, that it will all come right one day, until the day you wake up and realize that if that day were ever going to come, a couple years ago would have been too damn late to do you any good.

Think you might be a little bitter, Eva? Hm? And what do you think you might say to some man who comes up to you one day and says, “Hey, even though I took all the benefits of masculism for years, I have seen the light, and am now on your side, and have written a few columns in support of you. But you’re too bitter; and even though the movement I stood by and watched destroy you, and even supported at times, took years to make you what you are, you need to just get over it now. And stop talking bad about men – even though most of us have just stood by and let a few of us turn you into a second class citizen, we’re not all bad, you know.”

Well, Eva, I know what I might say if I was such a woman in that world. At the very least I might say, “You haven’t taken the first step, let alone walked the proverbial mile in my moccasins, boyo, and you have a lot of dues to pay before you are entitled to tell me how I should feel.” But I am a charitable sort at heart, Eva. I imagine other women in that dark place might have less charitable sentiments than me. In that alternate reality, such women might refer to Masculists with vulgar names. And given that so many men in that world just stood by and clucked while women were reduced to second class citizens, but did nothing but urge women to take charge of themselves and take responsibility for the evil that has befallen them; and of course, to suck it up, and take one for the team for now, it’ll all even out some day - at at the same time urge those women to be temperate in their speech while doing it - Why, Eva, I think those women in that horrid world might not really give a rat’s ass if a few men got their feelings hurt, especially when those men read “Masculist” and decide to infer it applies to “All Men.”

What becomes really aggravating in all this is the subtext and notion that there is some collective debt all men owe all women, which is not reciprocated; that absent conclusive proof to the contrary, men should give any woman the benefit of the doubt for being women, and no matter how often a man gets burned, with each and every woman that comes along, the slate must be washed clean. I reverse, though, it’s okay to collectivize men, and require each man to prove himself worthy of that kind of respect. Women want to be women, and of worth for their femininity alone - but when women collectively fall short, then it is time to “treat them as individuals.” We men are the go to guys when women have problems, and let there be bad men, it’s our responibility to police our own, to go that extra mile to “show her” that we’re not like all the other guys. Because, gosh darn it, she’s a woman, and worthy of that respect, and she’s been burned before and has a right, as a delicate flower, to be re-assured - and we ought to be a little more empathetic, we insensitive louts. Guess what hapens when that is reversed, though?

There is a broad picture one looks at when you get hammered by a corrupt system, Eva, and sadly, feminists, your sisters, have created a world in which a relationship is a minefield for men, but a gold-mine for women if they are willing to work the system. Too many women take it entirely too personally when we men get tired of playing a rigged game, of being the ones upon whose shoulder falls the responsibility of sorting the wheat from the chaff.

The men’s movement is chock full of us guys who have seen first hand past the romantic notions of marriage, by being chewed up and spit out by the family courts. For some of us, we have a couple tours of duty, and we know just how bad it can be. Divorce is a nightmare for men, and in the event of breakups of marriages there is a legal nuclear option that women hold, and are for practical purposes universally unwilling to surrender - we are expected to “trust” that she would never do that.

Past the anger and bitterness of those of us in the Men’s movement, though, the desires and goals of the men’s movement are pretty simple - and pretty clear. We want to be accounted as worthy a parent, and not subjected to the knee-jerk discrimination in the family courts. We want due process when accused, and a clean slate when acquitted. We want to be more than a wallet, a walking ATM, and we want these “equal” women to step up and throw their shoulder into the load of supporting families. We want consistant treatment - if acting the father makes us a father, and not acting one makes us not one, we don’t want to be hammered ten years down the road for support for some child we never knew we had, let alone were never a father to, because some feminism-addled chick decided years ago she wanted to be a mother and didn’t need a man - but changed her mind when reality bit her in the ass. Conversely, if Biology is the determinant, we don’t want to be mandated support for some offspring of another man we were tricked into, and made a fool of, into thinking it was our own.

We’re just sick of the spin that the moral and ethical thing for a man to do is whatever makes a woman’s life work for her; and more so, we are sick to death of being told that because we want women to have real equality, which includes all the bad of equality to go with all the good they are unwilling to give up, that we are somehow anti-woman and re-issued feminists.

You want men to take responsibility for their part in all this - collectively, as opposed to individual cases? Excellent. Done. It’s time, then, for women to take a similar collective responsibility - all this damage done by “feminism” has been done by, and at the behest of your sisters. The majority of women stood by and uttered nary a peep while this went on for half a century - and while those who spoke up deserve individuallly deserve honorable mention, on the whole the collective actions of women were pretty damn pathetic as their fathers, brothers, and sons were being turned into second class citizens and they just watched with pursed lips and really concerned looks but did or said sod all about it.

And if those of us who got splattered when the feces hit the fan want to go off, get a shower, and drink a beer, are saying, “Call us when you clean up the mess” well, it certainly is our right, I’d say.

Do you feel a lot of anger from men in the movement towards women? I’d say that is probably true Eva, and justifiably so because for years upon years all we have recieved from all but a scant few here and there is lip service, platitudes, and at best indifference. And what compounds this annoyance is that even though we have been banging drums and blowing horns, and raising sixteen kinds of holy hell for years upon years until we were blue in the face, now - because women are suffering the long-predicted fallout! - only now has it become a crisis worthy of mention. So I am afraid, at the very least, that you will have to suck it up and be patient for a while. We’ve been clamoring for our change first. Solving men’s problems is the first priority, then we can deal with yours. And to be brutally honest, if some women are nconvenienced by this in the meantime, well, their apathy up till now makes it the very least of what is coming to them.

Like I said in the beginning – agreements with “buts” in them aren’t agreements, and make me think people aren’t listening. And I am as weary of reciting the litany of “Women can be as bad as men too, women aren’t angels, men aren’t demons, and “Woman Good, Man Bad” is a horrible myth.” as some are of hearing it. But I’ll tell you, I will welcome the day when people stop merely hearing it, and start listening. Maybe I can shut up then and rest my voice. As it stands right now, though, if I shut up, the choir will be the only people who have heard me preaching – and weary as they may be of hearing the sermon, you aren’t the sheep I am trying to save.

Eva Ellsworth

Ah, I’ve had a shot fired across me bow! Avast, ye scurvy knaves!

I’m working so I will have to respond in deatil later. For now, let’s leave a few item’s from Gonz’s Lexicon, since Eva is unclear on some meanings:

Femtard: Feminist Retard. But I repeat myself.
Bitch: Sorry Eva, this goes to Carol alone, the author of that piece of drivel. We’ll save time and point out that “douchebag” does too.
Femherroid: Pain in the ass feminist.
Rug Muncher: Lesbian; in this context referring to the political kind who tend to be gender seperatist/supremacists.
Femherroid Rug Muncher: Pain in the ass Feminist Lesbian.

Hope it’s more clear that Unca Gonz reserves his venom particularly for feminists, who aren’t ladies in his book, and don’t merit gentle speech or treatment - they are “Equal” after all. It’d be insulting and patronizing not to treat them just as I would a man, ya know?

Um - that is what equal means, right? I mean, they couldn’t possible mean “Treat me like a fellow man when it benefits me, and like a fragile flower if it doesn’t” do they? I mean, gee golly whillikers, that’d be - I dunno - hypocritical, eh wot?

N.D. Has No Plans to Alter Sioux Logos - Yahoo! News

I have an idea.

Cover them up - with posters and the like which include the NCAA logo in a fashion which makes it appear fascist, and with language that makes it very clear what your opinion of it is.

Like Perhaps:

ACTUNG!

SEIG HEIL!

To hell with the NCAA is what I say.

Grand Canyon to Get Glass-Bottomed Walk - Yahoo! News “Great views — and plenty of goosebumps for those afraid of heights.”

Glass bottomed, and looking out 4000 feet. Which sadistic son of a bitch, pray tell, came up with this idea? Chief Yellowhawk? Ah.

Yellowhawk, WTF did I ever do to you?

For all my acrophobic brethren, let me be the first to express my thanks for this nightmare of Cthulhean proportions:

Assbag.

Austin Community College, you bunch of syphilitic, bureaucratic, sanctimonious pricks.

FOXNews.com - U.S. & World - Texas Marine Told He’s No Resident, Must Pay Higher Tuition

Two years in Iraq, serving his country, so he’s not a citizen? HELLO, MCFLY?!?!?!?!?! ANYONE HOME?!?!?!?!?!

And the classic, and predictable: “A school spokeswoman says privacy laws prevent prevented her from commenting on his case.”

Translation from weaselspeak: “We’re acting like a bunch of dicks, and anything I say will only make it worse. There’s no excuse, we know it, but we won’t back down because that would be like admitting we’re wrong.”

Call these assbags. Write them. Blog them. Ridicule them. Point and laugh.

Director of Admissions & Records
Linda Kluck
(512) 223-7503; Fax (512) 223-7765

Governor of Texas
Rick Perry
Citizen’s Assistance Hotline: (800) 843-5789
[for Texas callers]
Citizen’s Opinion Hotline: (800) 252-9600
[for Texas callers]
Citizen’s Assistance and Opinion Hotline: (512) 463-1782
[for Austin, Texas and out-of-state callers]

Office of the Governor Main Switchboard: (512) 463-2000
[office hours are 7:30 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. CST]

Citizen’s Assistance Telecommunications Device
If you are using a telecommunication device for the deaf (TDD), call 711 to reach Relay Texas
Fax

Office of the Governor Fax: (512) 463-1849

Mailing Address
Office of the Governor
P.O. Box 12428
Austin, Texas 78711-2428

Delivery Address
Office of the Governor
State Insurance Building
1100 San Jacinto
Austin, Texas 78701

And you know what’s a real crock of shit? These are the same asshats who want to spend your money to educate illegal foreign invaders at “resident” rates. Can you believe that?

No. No education, no jobs, no welfare, and as far as I am concerned no medical or right to the courts. Go back where you belong - either emigrate legally, visit on a visa, or go the fuck home.

UPDATE: I have heard tell that a retired Marine working in the State Government is working on getting a waiver. More as I find more details.

Clifford D. May: Dear Cindy

Yeah. What he said.

People will do funny things when they grieve, and for a long time I have held back words I wanted to say out of respect for the son who gave his life.

No more.

I have heard the antisemitism from Cindy Sheehan that would make Heinrich Himmler blush with shame. I have watched as they have erected crosses with the names of soldiers on them, whose parents DO NOT WANT the memory of their loved ones in turn to be used for crass, vulgar, and tasteless political grandstanding; and have refused to remove the crosses, and I have watched as brain-dead lackwits like Arianna Huffington have flocked around Cindy Sheehan like flies to a rotting turd.

Next time this dumb bitch does something, I hope to hell some mother who’s son Cindy Sheehan is using like a cheap whore pimp slaps her into next week. I have absolutely had it with this racist skunk. Cindy Sheehan is a lying and duplicitous skank who’s malice is exceeded only by her stupidity, and is quite probably the best argument for retroactive abortion that can be made. The only thing that prevents her from being utterly useless is having produced a true hero for a son, though I will wager that his father had a lot more to do with it than her - evidenced by the fact that he has had the good sense to file for divorce from this hysterical and raving herpy.

Fuck off and die, Cindy. And if I have anything to say about it, your death will be listed under public improvements.

Kitten News - Opinion: “It wasn’t too long ago that slaves were not allowed to make eye contact with their masters. It was also expected that servants would cast their eyes downwards or away from their masters as well. “

Um, yeah.

Need I belabor this point? Or do I have to post yet more proof that feminism is a female supremacist hate movement?

MSN Health & Fitness - The Making of a Modern Dad

“Being a devoted parent is not only important but also natural for men. Indeed, there is evidence that men are biologically involved in their children’s lives from the beginning.“

Though I am sure that such things will be found by womanists to be “hateful” to women and motherhood.

The Making of a Modern Dad: “Being a devoted parent is not only important but also natural for men. Indeed, there is evidence that men are biologically involved in their children’s lives from the beginning.”

Summer Fading, Hollywood Sees Fizzle - New York Times

Let me field this one.

GONZO’S TOP TEN REASONS TO WAIT FOR THE DVD TO BE ON THE $9.94 TABLE AT WAL-MART

10) They suck.

9) They aren’t original anymore, but derivative.
The make a movie “based on the book” that doesn’t resemble the book.

7) Too damn many sequels of films that don’t live up to the originals.

6) Too damn many sequels to films that sucked to begin with.

5) Too damn many remakes.

4) Too much political correctness.

3) Too damn many liberal assbags inserting their axe-grinding in the film.

2) Too many ignoramus actors spouting weirdo political opinions all over hell that people are sick of seeing for free on the news let alone paying for it.

AND THE NUMBER ONE REASON TO WAIT FOR THE DVD TO BE ON THE $9.99 TABLE AT WAL-MART

1) They cost too much fucking money to see.

Did I leave anything out? Yeah, I know everything between “10″ and “1″ is just salt in the wound, but how the hell do you have a “Top Ten” list with only two items, eh?

The Second Coming

by William Butler Yeats

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all convictions, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all around it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

His Rottiness is always a bhreath of fresh air.

The Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler

This is even better:

How can I put this?

Bite my ass, you simpering bitch.

The last thing in the world that is needed is one more flannel-mouth femtard opining on what men have to do to be men again.

Guys - I will tell you how to be men again. One quick, simple, and easy lesson. Ready?

Stop letting women define manhood for you. They don’t know the first thing about it.

Stop being trendy little pricks, paying too much for ugly effete clothes which don’t fit properly, buying “product” which is chemically indistinguishable from the shampoo you find in Wal-Mart. Stop watching Oprah. And stop paying attention to the advice of femherroid rug-munchers.

Want to be a man? Be self sufficient, and self-reliant. Control your life, and if you screw up, admit it, pick yourself up, and try something new. Say what you mean, and mean what you say, and stop the politically correct pussyfooting around, mincing of words, and anguishing over whether reality offends some douchebag. Don’t play mind games.

Be an alpha male, in that you are a leader, not a follower; and trendiness is the nadir of being a follower.

Give twice as good as you get whether good, bad, or indifferent.

And don’t sell out yourself or your brothers for a romp in the sack. It’s just not worth it.

There. That’s all there is to it.